Ok, so, what's the go with the Practise/Qual/Short Race/Long Race format at Phillip Island this year?
Friday Practice 30 Minutes 12:45 - 13:15
Friday Practice 30 Minutes 13:20 - 13:50
Friday Practice 75 Minutes 14:30 - 15:45
Saturday Practice 60 Minutes 09:10 - 10:25
Saturday Qualifying 20 Minutes 11:45 - 12:05
Saturday Qualifying 20 Minutes 12:20 - 12:40
Saturday Race 1 14 Laps 14:10 - 14:40
Saturday Race 2 14 Laps 16:10 - 16:40
Sunday Warm Up 20 Minutes 10:25 - 10:45
Sunday Race 3 113 Laps 13:30 - 15:15
Can someone enlighten us as to what the purpose of the two 14 lap short races after the qualy sessions are for.







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Richard Johns 6:28 am August 29th 2008
I guess they are trying something new and ADVENTUROUS….. maybe
Richi 8:39 am August 29th 2008
as far as i can gather, each driver will qualify for a short race, ie jamie qualifies for race 1, craig qualifies for race 2, then the aggregated points from each race go towards the start position for Sundays race. Interesting concept.
Christa 9:39 am August 29th 2008
So those teams that put ‘both eggs in one basket’ will benefit from that…will be interesting.
Wheels 9:43 am August 29th 2008
The regs have been out for this meeting for a few weeks now, but here is an exert.
2.3 FINAL DRIVER PAIRINGS
2.3.1 All Teams must nominate their final Driver A and Driver B nominations in writing to the
Operations Manager by no later than 1730 on Friday 12 th September 2008
2.3.2 Final Driver nominations will not be published until all nominations have been received.
2.5 QUALIFYING
2.5.1 Qualifying will be made up of two (2) twenty minute sessions. One (1) for Driver A
and one (1) for Driver B
2.5.2 Both drivers designated to form a Car’s final driving crew must, in a Practice or Qualifying
session, have achieved a best lap time no more than 107% of the fastest V8 Supercar
Qualifying time achieved during the Qualifying sessions.
2.5.3 Any Driver whose best lap time exceeds the qualifying time cut-off as detailed in 2.5.2
above, will not be permitted to start in the Races; unless Rule D 6 applies.
1.6 V8 SUPERCAR RACES
1.6.1 The Meeting is only for cars complying with Division “C” of the Rules.
1.6.2 This Meeting is an Endurance Round.
1.6.3 There will be three (3) Races for V8 Supercars:
1.6.3.1 Two (2) Races of 14 laps on Saturday 13 th September in which there will be one
Compulsory Pit Stop (CPS) to be completed in either Race.
1.6.3.2 One (1) Race for V8 Supercars of 113 laps on Sunday 14th
September 2008, in which there will be two (2) CPS’s
1.6.4 The chequered flag will be shown to the leading Car as it crosses the Control line at the
end of its 113 th lap or one (1) lap after 1513, whichever comes first.
1.6.5 Awards and conditions for the Meeting are those contained in the Rules.
Clear as mud?
It makes running a tipping comp a pain in the bot-bot….
Cheryl 10:50 am August 29th 2008
yup wheels clear as mud!!!! lol
apparently there is a qualifying and race for driver A & then driver B….. then the big one on sunday…. aside from that i am confused! Have a look at the event program link below…..
http://www.v8supercar.com.au/v8data/2008/evnt_255/EI_RP.PDF
Hayley Mc 5:05 pm August 29th 2008
Sounds to me like a way to try to get people to turn up Saturday. Make them think they might be actually missing some racing.
Jamie Whincup 9:19 pm August 29th 2008
Philip Island is going to be a test run with this type of format. If it works I say we will use it more in duel driver events. I would be in favour to keep Bathurst as a single 1000k race.
Jamie Whincup 9:19 pm August 29th 2008
The big plus is both drivers get to qualify the car….
Richi 6:12 pm August 30th 2008
it’s an interesting concept, i hope it works!
Muz [JWCR Team Manager] 10:44 am August 31st 2008
I didn’t realize that both drivers qualified… I thought the driver in race two would need to continue on from where driver 1 left off. Anyway, you would think that all drivers would complete their pit stops in race 1…otherwise those that didn’t stop would line up at the front in race two with all the drivers behind them having completed their stop…effectively putting these guys at the back of the field from the get-go
Wheels 12:33 pm August 31st 2008
Nope, it doesn't work that way Muz.
Driver A qualifies for Race A only, driver B qualifies for race B only, and they start those races (either A or B, not both) in those positions.
In one (and one only) of the races, a CPS for tyres must be completed.
The combined finishing positions for race A & B make up the starting position for race C ( Sunday's enduro).
Cheryl 6:48 pm August 31st 2008
thank u wheels!!!! its been doing my head in!
Wheels 9:10 pm August 31st 2008
Hearin’ ya Cheryl.
Honestly, VESA should look to get a new editor that does their PDF releases, they are shocking…..
But back on topic. Once you get your head around the Driver A/B thing, and the Qualy and races that it applies too, it isn’t that bad.
What will be interesting is how the teams plan their CPS for only one of the races…..
David Wood 10:12 am September 1st 2008
A change is as good as a holiday isnt it ?
This qualifying format seriously disadvantages the teams that haven’t paired their ‘guns’ together, but should make for a very interesting ‘co-driver’ race. This will give us a good guide as to who is in form and who will struggle come the big one in a month or so’s time.
Again, Jamie and Craig are in good shape.
Luke Woods 6:28 pm September 2nd 2008
So the person that qualifies poorest should take the pitstop in thier race, so that they dont lose as many positions.
Jamie Whincup 6:57 pm September 2nd 2008
That is very logical of you Luke, so many different theories but I feel your on the right track.
Muz [JWCR Team Manager] 7:59 pm September 2nd 2008
I would definitely go the pit stop in race 1….
If you leave it to race two, potentially there could be up to 15-20 cars the stopped in race one right behind you, so you would lose all those positions instantly, no effectively leading the race and all that….
Luke Woods 11:14 pm September 2nd 2008
I dont think it matters too much which race you pit in, unless there are safety cars, so there is a bit of luck involved in the outcome of the races.
You will have an advantage if there is a safety car in the race you take your pitstop, because this means that you can catch up to the rest of the field and potentially get a strong result, and then you will be set for the race that you dont pit in. But aslong has you have the pace you will be in a relatively strong position.